The Coronavirus and the Reverse Effects of Quarantine


YEAR NUMBER 3 NOW DRAGS ON. It is likely time to accept the mass media/ social media branding of “Covid 19,” although as we get into numerous variants, we really should not forget where this thing came from. A new post and page will be created to reflect all that has happened, and all that has not apparently happened, over the past six months. Something of interest for the moment:


Have things gotten better? Relatively, yes. But absolutely, no. There are fewer lockdown restrictions in much of the world, and much of the population in the western world have been vaccinated. Death and infection rates are down, but India and other places struggle with the “Delta variant.” Perhaps that will become Covid-21.
Here’s the problem. People rush back to driving, flying, consuming. The familiar problems of global warming, extreme weather, resistant bacteria and mutating viruses remain. People quickly shed their masks and forget about social distancing and hand sanitizer. Wealth remains far from fairly distributed, there are problems with violent crime, and there are too many millions in poverty and in prison.
What is the obsession for “returning to normal?” Is anyone bothering to think they could take a train, rather than fly or drive? Fortunately, yes, and there are still many being cautious and not traveling at all.
Viruses have been rushed into production. The apparently superior Pfizer is supplemented by many other brands. For the second dose, there is both mixing and matching, based it seems on guesswork, and costs and supplies, rather than science.
I’m not a “doom and gloom” kind of person. But if people don’t learn from this “Pandamit” experience and turn things around for the better, we are setting the stage for more problems.
Personally, I’ve been greatly affected. My dreams have been profoundly influenced by the relative lockdown, and consist far too much of being trapped in a maze, of going somewhere and not getting out. More on this is a separate chapter, vs. a post. The other is more physical- hereditary arthritis in my body catching up with me too early in life due to the slowdowns in physical activity over the past year and a half.
But we all have our cross to bear. One reason I posted here about “Treatments for Depression,” so we all know there are options to consider when feeling down. I do hope we all support one another, in many ways, including simply remembering to cover our mouths and nose when we sneeze and cough. We don’t know yet what effect Covid-19 and the vaccines will have with the coming season’s flu viruses and other Coronavirus variants. We’re all guinea pigs in this. To all I wish Good Health and Good Luck!

News media:

While I wanted Pfizer, I got the Oxford AZ brand. It’s a bit of a lottery really. The link to The Guardian article follows the photo.

On mixing and matching vaccines, from Rueters Factbox

UPDATES 25 NOV-17 DEC 2020

The original posts of February 18 and March 25 have unfortunately held up to the test of time. These follow this posting of a few relevant links covering the news since then, particularly focusing on the failed experiment of “herd immunity” conducted by Sweden. It may be noted that at one point the death rate reached 73% of those affected, and the deaths per capita were the highest in Europe at another point.

The young, relatively immune to symptoms and the conditions of the disease, are the super spreaders of the contagion. Yet schools remain open, and the virus can spread to parents, grandparents, and others. Whether this next photo has been photoshopped in any way is not clear, however not adapting rules such as the time for class changes shows rigidity and ignorance.

Reportedly a UK public school during class change

Something satirical in this impromptu (no rehearsals, raw and unpolished!) performance…

With every new report of quarantine comes the alarming prospect that more people will be unlikely to seek treatment, resulting in the reverse effect of what a quarantine is designed to do, halting the spread of infection, as those who are infected remain in the public at large.
                Special Feature by Talmage Carawan
Update! 25 Mar 2020  For the past weeks, I checked the Worldometer site for statistics.  The death rate climbed steadily from 6% to 14%.  How to explain this? There has been much misinformation and differing interpretations of the numbers, for example a very alarming 14% death rate compared to a more optimistic 1%. Most young people may have it without even knowing it. Those with it hesitate to get help, knowing they will be quarantined if testing positive. Others are afraid of more exposure and infections if they go to a hospital. So they “gut it out.” Unless mandatory testing is done, people may not seek treatment until they have become very ill. One dark humor take on this is that we are better getting it sooner than later, while there are still some health care workers alive. And yes, there may be a break for summer, with the fall- early winter being the most lethal wave.  (Update 4 Dec 2020- second and in some cases, third waves have arrived, with greatly increasing numbers of cases and deaths)

The article as originally published on Feb 18, 2020:.

quarantine on bus
evacuated on a bus, going where?
By the time a contagious spread has been detected and there is no response to conventional treatments, a large number of people will have been infected, and some proportion of them gone on to exhibit symptoms. Those without symptoms will not be seeking treatment, and those with symptoms may be reluctant to seek treatment. Only when health has worsened greatly may some be driven to doctor and hospital.
Viruses mutate, and how long must someone stay confined before being released? Fourteen days? A month? Normally, one would expect that within 24 or at most 48 hours to grow sick from exposure to a virus. Yet we are seeing quarantine times grow much longer.  The Center for Disease Control (CDC, US) states  that “symptoms of COVID-19 may appear in as few as 2 days or as long as 14 days after exposure. This is based on what has been seen previously as the incubation period of MERS-CoV viruses.”  We may suspect that the symptoms would appear within two days, but fourteen days allows more time for the quarantined individuals to be studied, in effect becoming human guinea pigs.  Scientists and doctors may argue that cost is worth it to society as a whole, hoping for an effective treatment, but it likely will have the reserve effect, where people are reluctant to receive treatment, for any virus or bacterial infection, fearing the effective imprisonment awaiting them.
If someone is not feeling well, the last thing they will want is to be suspected of having the Coronavirus, and subject to a quarantine of unknown duration and conditions, likely being exposed to others suspect of falling ill to this, both medical workers and patients. With every new report of quarantine comes the alarming prospect that more people will be unlikely to seek treatment.
Therefore we have the reverse effect of what a quarantine is designed to do, halting the spread of infection, as those who are infected remain in the public at large.
An example news report, about the cruise ship Diamond Princess stranded in a Japanese port, with extracts from the article…
The couple’s son, Steve Abel, said his parents were “not getting any communication” from the UK. “They are very high-spirited people,” he told BBC Breakfast, but added: “There are cracks in the armour and they are getting down. My mum breaks down in tears frequently, my dad is short-tempered. They are not getting any communication from our country, so they are in the dark and feeling very unloved.”
Abel, from Oxfordshire, said he doubted his diagnosis. “Frankly I think this is a setup! We are NOT being taken to a hospital but a hostel. That’s where partners are sent waiting out their quarantine,” he wrote. “No phone, no wifi and no medical facilities. I really am smelling a very big rat here! Waiting for the transfer now.” I doubt it [the test] was positive. If it was, we would be in hospital.”
Diamond Princess

                             Diamond Princess, passengers and crews stuck aboard

Earlier articles from The Guardian

Excluding The Guardian’s material, original content for this site copyright 2020 by Talmage Carawan

Note: To be specific, according to the CDC,  severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19.  (

The bad news unfortunately continues, March 8 2020 reports

As more people are put into quarantine and lockdown, the likelihood anyone with symptoms will hide them grows.

But always look on the sunny side of life!  Or we should try anyway.

As time goes on, more articles on the effects of quarantine appear.


” uncensored internet access and smartphones, to stave off boredom. This helps reduce both anxiety and distress…You have to let people stay in touch…Living in quarantine can also have long-term negative effects, including the development of alcohol abuse and other dependency symptoms… important for people in quarantine to keep a healthy life style…try to sleep well, eat healthy, exercise as much as possible and avoid unhealthy habits like drinking or smoking…”


“this reduction in physical activity can affect your mind… may manifest as sadness, irritation, frustration, anger, and other uncomfortable emotions.’

Of course, looking at too much news takes its toll, and with that, the negative reports here stop.  Please go to these chapters, which I hope prove helpful



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